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Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole

Posted by Ted Evans 
Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 02:59PM
Now that I have your attention I will word it a little differently. Bowen needs a taxi service like the property owners at CRC need huge docks. The docks at CRC are not needed, but the property owners want them. Likewise, we don't really need a taxi service on Bowen, but there is certainly a group of individuals that want one. Before I am crucified I will state for the record, I support a unsubsidized (heavy emphasis on the unsubsidized) traditional taxi service provided by an ownership group, with the necessary resources and expertise, that is committed to making the service available to the entire island; not because we need it but because it is what I like to call a "nice to have" - "very nice to have'. There is no reason we do not have a taxi service unless of course, contrary to what we are being told, there is no market, that there are an insufficient number of potential users willing to pay the fare necessary to make the system viable.

With my rant out of the way, I will focus my attention on attempting to garner a tiny glimpse at what lurks behind all the smoke and mirrors of the "Shannon - Zawadzki Sideshow". You and I are each being asked to write letters to the BC Passenger Transportation Board in support of their proposal - but what exactly is their proposal? The "Urgent Public Need Fact Sheet" (https://bowenisland.civicweb.net/document/79719) lists Business Plan, Financial Statements and Public Need as some of the criteria to considered, none of which we have been provided for our perusal, but still they ask for our letters of support. Not from me boys; I'm not in the habit of signing blank cheques. I sincerely hope that our elected council will exercise the same level of caution and examine the supporting documentation that is required by the BC Passenger Transportation Board. I hope that they will not issue a carte blanche letter of support without completing their due diligence.

I examined some of the earlier rhetoric. A few weeks back George Zawadzki admitted that a taxi service was "cost prohibitive". He went on to say " There just isn't enough people to move to make a profit, especially if you have to factor in the high costs associated with properly licensed and insured vehicles that current commercial passenger transportation regulations require. The best you can expect is to break even and hope the service can sustain itself because it doesn't have taxpayer money subsidizing it." I translate this into one simple statement - There is insufficient demand for the service to make it financially viable. So, what do you see written between the lines? I see MUNICIPAL SUBSIDY in big bold capital letters. The group, in its letter to the BIMTAC, has indicated a desire to wrap its talons around the estimated $60,000 of our gas tax grant to help fund their venture - what's next? Ever see a fat pig clean out the slop trough? Want to see what a fat pig taxi service will do to our limited municipal resources?

Zawadzki writes, "What we require is something that fills the void and provides service to areas where the bus doesn't go and when the bus doesn't run. Ie: Valhalla, golf course, evenings, etc". My neighbourhood is identified in this this group and I can assure you that I have never been canvassed as to whether I would utilize this service. How does one conclude there is an "Urgent Public Need" without canvassing the neighbourhood residents? Do you cannot conclude there is an "Urgent Public Need" simply because there is no current service being provided? We don't have, dare I say, a casino, a marijuana dispensary or myriad of other amenities. There is no proctologist either - some say there is an "Urgent Public Need".

Zawadzki, while dumping on Uber, also writes "no one is going to get out of bed to drive part time for peanuts no matter how bad you require the convenience". I appreciate things can change overnight so maybe he can tell us where they located someone in the last few weeks to get out of out of bed to drive some piss tank home from the pub.

I was cautioned by a friend against stating it can't be done. Of course he is right; man is capable of doing anything but being capable of doing something doesn't automatically make it an intelligent thing to do. We have all read the posts pertaining to Uber and Co-operatives. Zawadzki wants us all to believe that these are not options. I revert back to my friends caution - everything is an option.

Remember, the void created when Wes withdrew his service years ago has not been filled for a reason.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 03:53PM
I guess it's safe to say that Ted (who seems to be a little misinformed) won't be using this new PRIVATELY owned taxi service that so many others have expressed a need for. I for one, would like commend Mike Shannon for his desire to further invest in the community by stepping up to meet those needs, and financially funding this venture. Those of you who understand the benefits a taxi will add to the economic, environmental, and social well being of the island, can express your support by writing a letter addressed to the BC Passenger Transportation Board that outlines how and why you would use it, and email to bowentaxi@gmail.com. Thank you.

We will be hosting a community information meeting on Saturday, November 28 from 1pm to 3pm at Doc Morgan's (downstairs), where we will share our vision for the service, answer your questions, and most importantly, ask for your feedback so we can best tailor our service model to meet the needs of the community.

Ted, Mike and I would be more than pleased if you attended. It would give us the opportunity to meet "face to face", and allow us to clear up any misinformation. Cheers.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 03:55PM
Well Suzie, while the tone is a bit strong I have to agree with all your points.
I don't believe we should subsidize this venture. If there is a real need it should pay for itself. If it can't then it's not the time. Or perhaps be a charitable service.
As you said it's a nice to have need. Who would use the taxi and how often.
The bus does not come down my road or area just as it doesn't go up into your area. Probably for a good reason. No ridership. A taxi is not going to create ridership where it doesn't exist.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 03:58PM
Tks for the info on the meeting at docs. Hope I can attend to hear more.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 05:58PM
Hmm why do I find myself wondering- why do posts like this happen when the sun is well over the yard arm?
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 06:16PM
Yes Josie, the tone is strong. It is not the politically correct but George could easily make me "eat crow" by posting his business plan, financial resources and market research demonstrating that there is sufficient demand to make the venture viable without government subsidy. Your serve George.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 06:36PM
Lol......well I assure you, we aren't and won't be asking for a subsidy. I'm an experienced business person with the right experience and tools to sustain a service here. Currently I have two marine based marine transportation businesses and I'm looking forward to working with George to adding a couple of land taxis to help the Bowen community. All we have asked the public and municipality for is letters of support. Nothing more. I also live here with my family and have done so for 6 years. I'm well aware of what I'm getting myself in to. This is not a huge business venture but I feel it is huge to helping tie our transportation system here on Bowen together looking forward. By no means do i expect to get rich off a couple of taxis. Im happy to break even at best in the off season and make a bit of profit in the summers if it helps the community and friends. That's it, that's all. Have a great weekend everyone.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 06:45PM
Looks like "Crow Pie" ain't on tonight's menu.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 06:50PM
All good Ted. Just a misunderstanding of information.....almost NEVER happens on Bowen :-P
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 06:56PM
Can't misunderstand information unless it is made available Mik .... NEVER happens in Alberta ranch country.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 07:09PM
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2015 10:02PM by Julia Courtenay.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 08:13PM
A "couple" of taxis as in plural, more than one? Wow!!
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 08:23PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2015 11:57PM by CAWES.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 21, 2015 11:01PM
Ted wrote: "The docks at CRC are not needed, but the property owners want them."
Who made you god to decide what is needed? If you want to talk about need versus want, you might want to shut the kitty-cat not down.
You have opened a huge can of organically fed poop eating mealy bugs.
For instance, I don't need a navigable road to your house. You might want it, but I also don't want to pay for any survey that would support or deny any such access. We are a baby municipality, and are getting our CaCa together. One day, we will create by-laws as to whether your road is worth it and won't have to have silly discussions on the forum about it.
But, as we are still talking about this, without any proper referendums etc. you also wrote:
"Remember, the void created when Wes withdrew his service years ago has not been filled for a reason."
You must be uber stealth man. I had no idea you were that close to Wes or were even on the island when the bus license came up for public grabs. Guess I don't get out much.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2015 11:31PM by jvik.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 22, 2015 07:27AM
Never argue with idiomatic thinking, it will drag you down to its level and beat you with experience.
I believe George and Mike are doing this right.
Ted, don't quit yer day job
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 22, 2015 09:14AM
Julie

Bing translator did not recognize. Please re-post in a comprehensible manner.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 22, 2015 09:30AM
What our good friend Ted may be forgetting, is he has already pledged his support for this private sector taxi venture on March 12, 2013 at 2:17pm... during discussion about the last taxi proposal. Did someone call for a taxi?

"Dear Mayor and Council,

I am in support of the Chamber of Commerce initiative to bring a new taxi/shuttle service to Bowen Island and encourage you to give your support.

However, I strongly believe the addition of the proposed taxi/shuttle service should be provided by the private sector. It is ironic that a body of independent business owners would not step up and grasp a business opportunity. Entrepreneurs are extremely good at filling market demands and the fact they haven't leads me to believe there is not sufficient demand for an unsubsidized service.

I ask that you assist the Chamber and other stakeholders in finding a way to deliver the desired taxi/shuttle to Bowen Island but leave the provision of this service to the private sector."


My apologies that it took over two years to find an independent business owner and entrepreneur to privately fund this venture Ted, but now that an actual experienced transportation service provider and full time resident is on board and willing to risk his money for the good of the community, I'm confident the solution is not far from becoming a reality.

Now, as far as wanting to see our business plan and financials.. an astute businessmen such as yourself should already know that's confidential business information, and the only people we are obligated by law to share it with is the BC Passenger Transportation Board. However, if you agreed to sign the standard non disclosure agreement that accompanies most business/financial plans, we might consider it, if we actually believed you had the required character to honor that agreement. As far as sharing our vision and how we intend to deliver this service to the community, that we have no problem with... that's why we are hosting the community information meeting.

I also know some people feel there would be a taxi by now, if there really was a demand for it, and I also know I have said in the past that it's cost prohibitive. That is mainly due to the fact that we have a limited bus service that is subsidized by the taxpayers (many of whom don't even use it) to the tune of $650,000 a year, and that's hard to compete with. Wes, who I actually spoke with about the challenges of "Bowen Taxi past and present" yesterday morning... provided a much loved and successful taxi service for 18 years before the bus arrived. He tried valiantly to compete with the latest and greatest convenience at the time, but in end had to bow out and folded shop. That was 10 years ago. Is there truly an "urgent public need" for a taxi service today? We will let the letters we receive from the public, business community, municipal committees, and our Mayor and Council answer that question. But judging from the great response and positive comments we have received so far, like we did on Facebook, we think there is... and if the BC Passenger Transportation Board feels the same way, then they will have no problem fast tracking our application for a taxi license.

So once again Ted, if you want to know more about this initiative, I urge you to come out to the meeting.



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Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 22, 2015 11:26AM
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 22, 2015 12:03PM
George, while I understand the provocations Ted has aimed at your upcoming issue, truly the last half of your last sentence disappoints me. You are of higher spirit than to aim low. Always take the high road if you can.
Re: Bowen Needs a Taxi Service like a Goose Needs a Second A-Hole
November 22, 2015 12:18PM
I suppose your right Cher.

My apologies Ted, no hard feelings!
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